What’s all this about 1080p?

I had a chat with one of my editors yesterday about a piece I’d done on high definition video, in which I hadn’t mentioned 1080p. In Australia, the legislated high definition TV standards are 576p, 720p and 1080i. The ‘p’ stands for progressive scan and ‘i’ for interlaced. It seems that over in the United States, the industry is very excited about 1080p-capable displays.

Why?

Well, it has to do with Blu-ray. Amongst the video outputs permitted in the Blu-ray specification is, in fact, 1080p. But that bald tag doesn’t convey the whole story. Sending 1080p down a wire at 50 or 60 hertz offers no advantage over 1080i with film sourced material, and demands double the bandwidth, making higher demands on cabling. Oh, sure, for 60 hertz systems 1080p eliminates the need for the 3:2 pulldown that afflicts NTSC systems, but still leaves problems with the film cadence (to turn the 24 frames per second of film into 60 frames per second means that twelve of the original frames will be shown twice, and twelve will be shown three times, potentially producing a slight jerkiness).

In fact, the 1080p standard to be offered by Blu-ray isn’t at 50 or 60 frames per second, but 24. You can see the advantage of this. First, the bandwidth is reduced. So much that it is actually slightly below 1080i at 50 hertz. Second, and more importantly, this precisely matches the original film speed. In 60 hertz countries, that means no need for 3:2 pulldown, nor any cadence issues. What you get at home with your 1080p picture is precisely what was shown at the cinema.

That’s for 60 hertz countries. But how about here in Australia, and in Europe, and other 50 hertz nations. I see a problem for us. PAL turns 24 frames per second of film into 50 fields (each field is half a frame) per second by the far simpler technique of simply speeding everything up slightly. When you watch a film-sourced DVD in PAL, it runs at 25 frames per second, so the movie is four per cent shorter. This is not discernible to most people and generally doesn’t worry me. But it does have one other implication: the pitch of the sound is four per cent higher.

It need not be. With modern digital processing, the audio can be speeded up with the original pitch maintained, but one way or the other, the sound is coming through faster in 50 hertz nations than in 60 hertz ones.

So what has this to do with 1080p? Well, for backwards compatibility with existing equipment, Blu-ray players sold here will have to support the various 50 hertz display standards: 576i, 576p, 720p and 1080i. That means the audio will have to be synchronised to the faster PAL-like playback rate. If the output is set to 1080p at 24 hertz, though, the audio won’t match the picture.

There are ways around this:

  1. The Blu-ray disc could have two audio tracks: one set for 50 hertz playback and the other for 24 frames per second. The player could automatically select the appropriate one according to the display settings.
  2. The Blu-ray player could do an automatic audio conversion on the fly. This would require some considerable processing grunt with an expensive DSP and a decision would have to be made as to which audio would be held on the disc. You could have the PAL-suitable, speeded-up, audio and convert it back to the original in the player, or the other way around. I’d prefer the latter since that truly is the original audio.
  3. The 1080p standard in nations like Australia could be set not to 24 frames per second, but 25. That means that there will be effectively no advantage for 1080p over 1080i.

My guess: the last option will be implemented. But I hope I’m wrong.

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More DVD reviews online

Well, I’ve added ten DVD reviews to my review page: The Simpsons–The Complete First Season (Collector’s Edition) , The Sopranos–The Complete First Season, Night of the Living Dead: 30th Anniversay Edition (1988/99), The Texas Chainsaw Massacre: 25th Anniversary Special Edition (1974), Psycho (1960), Psycho (1998), Panic Room (2002), The Interview (1998), Mad Max (1979) and Spider Man (2002). Go here.

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Is recording from TV worth it?

Dial M for Murder: top is from cheap Hong Kong DVD, bottom is recorded from TV The combination of digital TV and DVD recorders can, unlike VCRs and analogue TV, make it worthwhile to record broadcasts for permanent retention. In general, purchasing the DVD of a movie or a TV show is better, quality-wise, but not always. For one thing, there are thousands of movies that are not available on DVD, and may never be. For another, there may be constraints on a DVD that make it something you’re not particularly keen on.

Take Alfred Hitchcock’s 1954 thriller, Dial M for Murder. There is a DVD version available in Australia, but I decided not to buy it. That’s because I already had a copy, admittedly poor, of the movie and because the Australian DVD distributor decided to reformat the Australian release as widescreen. They did this by cropping the top and bottom of the movie. (The linked review says that this movie was only available as part of a four-movie pack, but it now appears to be available separately.)

Pan and scanning widescreen movies into 4:3 is bad enough, but at least you can see that when DVDs first came out almost all TVs were of a 4:3 aspect ratio, and people were used to this format from video tapes. There may have been some justification. But cropping an old movie to widescreen!

Anyway, I picked up my copy of Dial M at the street markets in Hong Kong three years ago and it really wasn’t good, being fuzzy, washed out and in NTSC format. But it was in the original aspect ratio format and watchable.

The other night one of our commercial TV stations broadcast the movie, so I decided to record it. At least, I reasoned, it would be in PAL format. I used a Topfield TF5000PVRt digital TV tuner, recording onto its hard disk. Later I copied this to the hard disk of a Pioneer DVR-530H DVD recorder using an S-Video connection (the highest quality input provided by the Pioneer) using the MN23 mode (which notionally gives 105 minutes of recording time on a blank, single layer DVD-R). I edited the advertisements out in video mode. The results were very impressive. I suspect that the source of the TV broadcast must have been a restored version of the movie. Despite the station identifier watermark and the occasional bottom-of-the-screen banner, and the movie identifier splash screens which preceded each advertisement (the audio from the end of the previous scene sometimes faded into the start of the splash screen, so I left these in), the result was far better than my Hong Kong DVD.

As you can see from the pictures to the right. The top one is a detail from the Hong Kong version, and the bottom from the TV version, as recorded by the Topfield/Pioneer combination. The bottom one is at the original vertical resolution, while the top one was scaled up by twenty per cent (480 to 576 pixel vertical resolution) to match the size.

I know which one I prefer

Of course, all this could take a step up in quality if DVD recorders incorporated digital TV tuners. That will happen eventually, of course, but in the meantime, the consumer can get excellent results with a good standard definition digital tuner and DVD recorder combination.

You can achieve even better results by installing a digital TV tuner card in your computer, but that’s another story.

UPDATE (Wednesday, 29 March 2006, 11:04 am): Link to Topfield TF5000PVRt fixed, thanks to Jai Kemp from Topfield.

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PVR & DVD player, or STB & DVD recorder?

John from Canberra writes:

I was after some independent advise on the best way to go forward on some electronic purchases, and was wondering if you would help.We currently have a 5 year old Sony Trinitron TV, a cheap unreliable Palsonic DVD player and a dying Sony VCR approximately 8years old. We were thinking of upgrading all with the exception of the TV. Another issue is that we live in Cook, basically line of sight to Black Mountain Tower but get bad TV reception ie people walking round the house interfere with the reception.

Our initial thought was to get a set top box with a hard drive and buy a new better quality DVD player. Since talking to a few people (sales assistants) they have said just buy a cheap standard definition set top box and add a DVD recorder with hard drive.

What would you recommend? Are any brands more reliable/recommended than others on both set top boxes and DVD recorders?

I hadn’t really considered the alternatives in this way. So, you want to time shift live TV to a more convenient viewing time. Either way would work.

You can have a hard disk equipped digital TV receiver (PVR) and record on that, while using a new DVD player for playing back commercial DVDs. OR, you can have a basic digital TV receiver (Set top box: STB) and use a hard disk equipped DVD recorder to both record from this, and play back commercial DVDs.

The latter way has the advantage of being cheaper overall, since you can get an excellent hard disk DVD recorder, such as the Pioneer DVR-530H (which is what I use) for a rapidly diminishing price, perhaps under $800 now, and a high quality but inexpensive set top box, such as the excellent Strong SRT-5006, for under $200. Also, no PVRs that I’m aware of use the ‘G-Code’ (‘Showview’ in Europe) recording system, whereas several DVD recorders from the likes of Panasonic, Pioneer, Sony, Toshiba and Philips do.

Finally, if you decide you want to keep the recording for ever, you can edit out the ads and burn it to a DVD.

However, this also has some disadvantages. First, you will have to make sure you leave your STB switched on in advance when you’re proposing to timer record. Second, unless your STB has more than one output, you’ll have to either swap cables or watch live-time broadcast TV through the DVD recorder.

But before doing this, get your TV antenna looked at. Digital TV reception may also suffer if you have problems. Direct line of sight at this quite short range ought to provide very good analogue reception. Get an antenna specialist in.

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More technical discussion of ‘RMS Watts’

David Brigden has written to tell me about an article on his Web site that discussed the concept of ‘RMS Watts’. I’ve previously dealt with this on this site, but the article he publishes gives a much more mathematically rigorous treatment to the subject.

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The Great DVD Giveaway–2

Once again I have some surplus DVDs that readers may like to have for nothing, or at least, only the cost of postage. These are mostly DVDs that have been sent to me for review purposes. Note: These DVDs should not be sold. Most are marked as review copies. None have DVD cases, and most don’t even have slicks (the paper inserts), although it is indicated for those few that do. Except where marked, they are in PAL format. Some I am giving away because they are duplicates, others because they have no interest for me or anyone in my family.

Contact me by email (scdawson (at) hifi-writer.com) if you would like to have any of these. First in, first served. And here they are:

UPDATE (Thursday, 25 August 2005, 3:44 pm): As the titles above were and are claimed, I have struck and shall strike them out

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Denon introduces the nearly perfect home theatre amplifier

Denon AVC-A11XV home theatre amplifier Denon’s $13,000 AVC-A1XV home theatre amplifier is overkill, with its ten channels of amplification and 45 kilograms of mass. Now Denon has introduced the much more affordable ($6,999) and lighter (23kg) AVC-A11XV, with seven channels, each rated at 140 watts. It has everything in the way of features, including HDMI switching (one HDMI output, three HDMI inputs and one DVI input), picture scaling to HD if you want (using NSV rather than the Faroudja DCDi in the AVC-A1XV), and conversion of all interlaced input standards to whatever HDMI output setting you’ve selected.

It even has a phono input. Plus it supports all extant digital audio standards except for MPEG multichannel. There’s even HDCD support, and Dolby Headphone.

But it has one piece of silliness that I can never understand. There are three optical digital audio outputs, but no coaxial ones. Since I like to have the output of my receiver plugged into the input of my computer, by way of 15 metres of cable, this is irritating.

Still, I’d really, really like one. 1MB PDF brochure here.

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Panel TV Price falls continue

NEC NLT-40W LCD TV I’ve just received a press release from NEC Australia saying that the selling price of its 40 inch (100cm) widescreen LCD TV, the NLT-40W, has been reduced from $9,999 to $5,499 (as I write, the NEC Web site lists the price as $6,999). That’s an extraordinary price reduction and marks the LCD actually becoming competitive to the plasma (admittedly, the competing plasma displays are a couple of inches larger.

The main problem with LCD TVs is their poor contrast ratio. This one is specified at 600:1. That makes them not very good for darkened-room watching. On the other hand, you can sit much closer to one than to a plasma while retaining a very smooth picture, because the interpixel boundaries are much, much thinner.

So for regular, lit-room, family use they’re excellent. The NLT-40W, incidentally, is a high resolution unit with 1,280 by 768 pixels, has a DVI input and built in stereo speakers.

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Consumer DVD recorders go dual layer

Well dual layer recordable DVDs have been around for about 18 months now, without too much happening with them. With their expense (still over $8 each here in Australia), their use has been difficult to justify. Might as well just split a movie over two single layer discs.

But the good news is that dual layer consumer DVD recorders are now arriving. Both NEC and Sony are introducing models supporting DVD+R DL, while Pioneer’s new range are supporting the new DVD Forum standard, DVD-R DL. I was going to put more details about all these models, but the Internet — at least my view of it — is extremely flaky this afternoon.

Dual layer recordable DVDs have a capacity of 8.5GB rather than the single layers’ 4.7GB. (In this context, a GB = 1,000,000,000 bytes, not 1,073,741,824 bytes.)

Given that dual layer discs are so expensive, why is this good news? Because these recorders will make dual layer discs more popular. The broader their use, the cheaper they will become. At last, we will be able to look forward to significant price reductions in dual layer recordable DVDs.

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The flexible eye

The eye/brain mechanism for seeing is remarkable. We rely intensely on its ‘defects’ for home theatre. Consider a projector. It is casting an image onto a white screen. Yet with a good projector in a dark room, the black areas of the projected image look black. Clearly they must be white, because the ‘black’ is simply an area on the screen where no light is being projected. Or not much.

If you are using a digital projector (LCD, DLP or LCoS), if the scene fades out to black and you pause the picture, after a few seconds you’ll see that it’s not black at all, but a dark grey. That’s because no digital projector can yet full eliminate some light leakage. Yet even a small bright part appearing on the image can make the rest of the screen look dark, midnight black.

That’s because our visual circuits have a light intensity averaging system built in. The point of vision in the human animal is to facilitate recognition, not to act as a scientific instrument delivering lux counts. Our averaging system allows a black cat to look black even in bright sunlight, even though it is considerably brighter than a grey cat seen under modest artificial lighting. It is this averaging system that allows projectors to produce subjectively good images in our home theatres.

This post over at the ‘WILLisms’ blog demonstrates the point clearly. Two squares are identical in grey level, yet one looks dark grey while the other looks almost white. Go and have a look. It is quite startling.

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